S2 E9
"The Twilight Woman"
An βethical homosexual cultureβ overwhelms the Movement.
San Francisco's gay community confronts the police for payola. The Daughters of Bilitis hold their first national convention and lesbian pulp books stir new arguments. Frank Kameny joins the main story and reaches out for help from the crumbling Mattachine. President Kennedy ushers in a new era.
Original release: August 5, 2020
First Convention of the Daughters of Bilitis, 1960
Sarria for Supervisor!
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Interview w/ Jon Martinez,
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Subscribe on Patreon or Apple Podcasts to listen to this bonus episode from spin-off podcast Forgotten Fairy Talesβand many more from Mattachine Meeting, Randy Wicker Radio, Infamous Crimes: White Night Riot Interviews, and more!
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Recorded in Hoboken, New Jersey, January 16, 2020.
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Three transgender San Franciscans discuss police problems and their work as members of C.O.G., Conversion our Goal, with Police Community Relations Officer Elliot Blackstone of the San Francisco Police Department. Herb Kutchins of the San Francisco Bail Project moderates.
βA Step Higherβ
w/ Mattachino
Wendell Sayers
Historian Eric Marcus interviews Wendell Sayers, an attorney, the first Black assistant attorney general for the state of Colorado, and one of few Black members of the Mattachine Society.
He attended the 6th annual Mattachine convention in 1959, a dramatic event featured in S2 E8.
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see you in the magazines
SEPTEMBER 14, 2020
Clip from βThe Homosexualsβ on CBS in 1967. More about that in an upcoming episode, but go ahead and take a peak inside the Mattachine offices! π






AUGUST 10, 2020
People Today reports on ONE, Incorporated, including photos of the staff assembling the February 1954 issue as they cover their faces with it. βJobs are part-time, unsalaried and done mostly at night.β ππ
Also, they refer to the Mattachine coverage by Paul Coates, which was a BFD in season 1 βοΈ
@onearchives π







AUGUST 18, 2020
Issues published during the events of episode 9! (part 1) π
I swapped the first 2, because Jan 1960 is a remake of Sep β59, previously posted. And Feb β60 is so very hot. Also, Patreon subscribers might recognize Stella Rush A.K.A. Sten Russell from the bonus podcast.
π @onearchives








AUGUST 14, 2020
The often-mentioned βHomosexuals Todayβ published by ONE, Inc. This is my friendβs copy, which I drooled over for an entire afternoon. You might recognize some moments from past episodes! (part 1/2) π
This is the first directory of gay organizations and publications all over the world β 188 pages. Its author is William Dorr Legg (who was tailed by the FBI in season 1), published under one of his many pseudonyms, Marvin Cutler.
@onearchives π
His other pseudonyms were Holister Barnes, Richard Conger, W.G. Hamilton, William Lambert, Wendy Lane, Valentine Richardson, and Sidney Rothman.
Look through the entire book here: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000977104 βοΈ
Lots more fab bonus stuff at patreon.com/queerserial π








AUGUST 15, 2020
(2/2) The often-mentioned βHomosexuals Todayβ published by ONE, Inc. This is my friendβs copy, which I drooled over for an entire afternoon. You might recognize some moments from past episodes!π
This is the first directory of gay organizations and publications all over the world β 188 pages. Its author is William Dorr Legg (who was tailed by the FBI in season 1), published under one of his many pseudonyms, Marvin Cutler.
@onearchives π
His other pseudonyms were Holister Barnes, Richard Conger, W.G. Hamilton, William Lambert, Wendy Lane, Valentine Richardson, and Sidney Rothman.
Look through the entire book here: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000977104βοΈ
Lots more fab bonus stuff at patreon.com/queerserial π







SEPTEMBER 4, 2020
Issues published during the events of episode 9! (part 2)
π @onearchives
AUGUST 27, 2020
βAs President of the Daughters of Bilitis, I must say that weβve come a long wayβ¦And when we feel despondent and sometimes say to ourselves, βOh, who cares? Whatβs the use?β we will get a letter or some person will call. Then we feel we should go on a little longer, to help where we can and do what we can.β πΈ
Cleo Bonner met the DOB at a brunch for closeted lesbians hosted by Del and Phyl. Cleo was the only person to show up. While simultaneously working at Pacific Bell, she quickly became circulation manager of The Ladder, DOB national office manager, and was later elected president (stay tuned to the pod!). She was in what Del and Phyl wrote was βa conflicted interracial relationship.β Cleo shared a duplex with her lover on one side and her son on the other. Cleo spoke publicly for the DOB out of state, but wouldnβt attend conventions in San Francisco β she didnβt feel safe being out in her home state. After Cleo stepped down from activism, the DOB lost touch with her. Her lover later called Del and Phyl to tell them Cleo had died of cancer.
πΈ from βBefore Stonewallβ edited by Vern Bullough. Date and photographer unknown.


AUGUST 11, 2020
BTS of DOB! Paste-ups of an itinerary for a Daughters of Bilitis convention! Notice any familiar names? π
Take a look behind the scenes of the podcast and hear bonus episodes at patreon.com/queerserial! π
π @onearchives
AUGUST 6, 2020
βIf the Mattachine men dress properly and conduct themselves with decorum, then surely they wonβt be mistaken for lesbians.β
βDaughters of Bilitis responding to Hal Call βοΈ
The scandalous mid-season finale βThe Twilight Womanβ is out now!! π»
Patreon subscribers will still be getting bonus episodes during the break π
patreon.com/queerserial π link in my bio!
π The Ladder, Vol. 5, No. 2. November 1960.



AUGUST 12, 2020
Well, we made it! The May 1959 issue, obviously the most striking of all the βReviewβ covers. β‘οΈ
Hear about the dramatic changes at Pan-Graphic Press in episode 9. π
πΈphotos of the big promo wall by @talldarkandryan


AUGUST 23, 2020
βBehind it all is this battle for political power.β
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Paste-ups for the new column by Hal Call.
π @onearchives









AUGUST 22, 2020
While the podcast has a little βinterim,β check out some covers of the Mattachineβs quarterly publication! The scandalous, groundbreaking, legendary photo of President Kenneth Zwerin (episode 5) is included here. The last image is the letter from Curtis Dewees asking why Hal included the scandalous pic in the bound volume (episode 9). These fucking queens. π¬
π @glbt_history
AUGUST 21, 2020
10 years and only 2 schisms!
SEPTEMBER 11, 2020
βAt our February 1958 Board meeting, it was voted that all other copies of this issue of Interim be destroyed and that no other copies be circulated.β π
If you like messy queens, listen to the Interim photo scandal in episodes 5 & 6
π @glbt_history
SEPTEMBER 12, 2020
The jester on display at the Gerber/Hart Library & Archives here in Chicagoβ¦ in the Howard Brown Health waiting room. Yep, you can browse real queer history documents while you wait to take your STI tests. Ah, Chicago π
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Follow their insta, itβs fucking fabulous:
π @gerberhart
SEPTEMBER 13, 2020
Casting a spotlight on bonus episodes! research photos! deep dives on stories that were cut from the podcast!
Take a deeper look inside the stories at patreon.com/queerserial π₯
π @glbt_history
reading is fundamental









SEPTEMBER 3, 2020
Look through an issue! (part 1) My fav Helen P. Branson is back! π
π @onearchives
SEPTEMBER 6, 2020
βThe raids were intended to intimidate them while there and to ruin gay bar businessβ¦ Peg B. describes a 1964 raid at Maryangeloβs, a Greenwich Village bar: A large man appeared at the door and yelled, βThis is a raid.β Everyone froze; then like a bunch of sheep we all tromped downstairs and into the waiting paddy wagons, about forty-three of us. We later learned that two women hid under a table in the back room and got away. In the paddy wagon a woman panicked and ate her driverβs license.β π
πLillian Fadermanβs book is one of my favorite resources for the podcast. Itβs packed with fascinating anecdotes throughout a history of lesbian love from the mid-19th century to the late 20th.
#ACAB #gayhistory #lesbianhistory #lillianfaderman #lgbthistory #historypodcast #lgbtpodcast








SEPTEMBER 4, 2020
Look through an issue! (part 2) Some very cute drawings in this one. π
π @onearchives









AUGUST 5, 2020
The mid-season finale βThe Twilight Womanβ is out now! π₯ Here are some of the lesbian pulp covers brought to life by fabulous voice actors β and some extras that I love, especially the last one. Wow. π
During the break Patreon subscribers will still be getting bonus episodes!
patreon.com/queerserial π link in my bio!



SEPTEMBER 8, 2020
Season 2 voice actor Annemarie studying up on the DOB founders π
πΈ @salviogado, obviously



SEPTEMBER 2, 2020
Jeannette Howard Fosterβs study of thousands of years of lesbian love from Sappho to βThe Well of Loneliness.β She was also a librarian at the Institute for Sex Research and worked with Alfred Kinsey. It was a whole cool thing I cut from an episode for time. π
JHF wrote in βThe Ladderβ about lesbian pulp author Ann Aldrich (as heard in the podcast) in a piece titled, βAnn of 10,000 Words Plus,β βMiss Aldrich doesnβt admit to writing fiction herself. Even if her three volumes on gay life in NYC read a good deal like it, they are sufficiently literal reportage to have got her boycotted by several gay bars in that cityβthe patrons donβt care to be used as copy. What these reveal is superlative early training in Writing to Sell, and something like diarrhea of the pen. For my money someoneβs not sure just who she is. People Who Live in Glass Houses Should Undress in the Dark.β
π @lesbianherstoryarchives
gay gals



JULY 21, 2021
π βWhat are you afraid of?β
Take a deep dive into docs and doodles from the 1960 Daughters of Bilitis convention!
β¨ patreon.com/queerserialβ¨
Link in my bio for TONS of upcoming new research dives AND new bonus episodes for season 3! And a new upcoming showwwww....
AUGUST 17, 2020
Before Bilitis, Billye Talmadge took on her blackmailer. We met her in episode 1 this season, now hear her story on my bonus podcast on Patreon. π¬
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πΈ by Morgan Gwenwald, @lesbianherstoryarchives DOB Video Project, May 12, 1987.





AUGUST 11, 2020
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Edythe Eydeβs (A.K.A. Lisa Ben) βGayest Songs on Wax,β as heard in episode 9. She also wrote this little song on image 3 for the 1960 DOB convention in the same episode!
Also, a letter from Edythe to Del and Phyl concerning the convention and the recording of the record, which it appears they sold at the big event. And check out that signature! πΈ
Take a look at behind the scenes of the podcast at patreon.com/queerserial! π
π @glbt_history







AUGUST 8, 2020
Behind the scenes paperwork from organizing the first convention of the Daughters of Bilitis! Lots more fab bonus stuff at patreon.com/queerserial π
Hear the convention on the newest episode βThe Twilight Woman.β
π drawing saved in the national convention file of the Lyon & Martin Papers @glbt_history
π tour guide pamphlet
π a letter from the Whitcomb Hotel (misgendering Del Martin)
π convention itinerary
π a letter from Kenneth Zwerin to Del Martin. Could the last paragraph be a bit of shade thrown at the Mattachine Society?
π list of lesbian bars
recruiting mattachine


AUGUST 13, 2020
Sign now to become a card-carrying homosexual π
π @onearchives










SEPTEMBER 5, 2020
In case you didnβt KNOWβ¦ and obviously the FBI found out. π
An informational pamphlet for friends and family about what homosexuals are and what the Mattachine Society is doing for them.
π Images 1-2 @glbt_history
π Image 3 FBI Mattachine file
π Images 4-6 @onearchives
π Images 7-10 from my little Mattachine collection







SEPTEMBER 7, 2020
Maybe he was corrupt but his publications were gorgeous. π
π @glbt_history
Please write.





AUGUST 19, 2020
Well-wishes (and some concern from Hal Call) for the first convention of the Daughters of Bilitis. π
To the last letter, the DOB office responded, βIf the Mattachine men dress properly and conduct themselves with decorum, then surely they wonβt be mistaken for lesbians.β
π @glbt_history
AUGUST 16, 2020
usps.com/store


AUGUST 15, 2020
βπ΅πππ ππππππ ππππππ...β π³
Voice actor @cacklin_jacqals played Jerry Moore in episode 8. The Detroit Mattachino was also a queen named Lady Jai. He passed away just last May at the age of 92. Jai was the last living link to Detroitβs earliest gay activism, having served as secretary for the chapter for its 17-month run. Jai typed two sets of minutes for their meetings: one with their real names, and one with their pseudonyms, just in case police came knocking. When the chapter disbanded, Jai wrote to the San Francisco leaders, βWe do not know who is to blame. We, the members, or the flighty gay populace.β π
π letter of congratulations to the DOB on their first convention, in episode 9. @glbt_history
πΈ Lady Jai at the Golden Slipper gay bar in Detroit, undated. University of Michigan Library.









AUGUST 13, 2020
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π @glbt_history @onearchives
SEPTEMBER 6, 2020
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π @glbt_history


SEPTEMBER 11, 2020
New York Mattachinos still have a few tricks up their sleeves. π¦
Until then, hear the schism in episode 9. π§
π @nypl, @onearchives
josΓ© sarria



SEPTEMBER 3, 2020
This week on the bonus podcast, Iβm chatting with choreographer (and my longtime friend!) Jon Martinez, voice of JosΓ© Sarria. Jon accidentally discovered Sarria way before I asked him to play the drag star activist. You can hear the whole story on the bonus pod through my Patreon! π§π½ββοΈ
Link in my bio. patreon.com/queerserial πΈ
π @jonnytaco_official
πΈ @collinquinnrice
π @glbt_history








AUGUST 12, 2020
Sarria for Supervisor! ππ½π³
Hear JosΓ©βs big return in episode 9, βThe Twilight Woman.β I did a big post about JosΓ© Sarria on my Patreon today! patreon.com/queerserial
π @glbt_history



SEPTEMBER 8, 2020
JosΓ© Sarria at the Black Cat! π
π @glbt_history
SEPTEMBER 16, 2020
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on the mic: outspoken lgbtq+ storytelling
AUGUST 10, 2020
Hear more queer history on my other podcast, βOutSpoken LGBTQ Storytellingβ for @sidetrackbar π
Thanks to @gerberhart for digitizing the fabulous early 90s gay Chicago news show!! See the full show at gerberhart.org and youtube π
SEPTEMBER 3, 2020
Hear more queer history on my other podcast, βOutSpoken LGBTQ Storytellingβ for @sidetrackbar π Available wherever you listen to A Queer Serial π§